Debian Bug report logs - #516566
Replace the "swirl foot" icon with the Debian swirl

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fabian Greffrath <fabian.greffrath@web.de>

To: Debian BTS <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: For the GNOME menu, please use the Debian swirl instead of the "foot" icon

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:27:21 +0100

Package: gnome-panel
Version: 2.24.2-3
Severity: wishlist

Dear GNOME maintainers,

I believe the Debian GNOME desktop could use some decent branding.
Please replace the "foot" icon next to the Applications menu in the
upper left corner with a Debian swirl. It is common practice in nearly
every other distribution to replace this icon with something
distribution-specific and thus provide some recognition value. Also, it
does not look redundant with the icon of the "Debian" submenu, since
nowadays this is disabled by default anyway.

Thank you so much for the effort you put in the Debian GNOME desktop!

Cheers,
Fabian

Message #12 received at 516566-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: 516566-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#516566: fixed in gnome-icon-theme 2.24.0-3

Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:47:08 +0000

Source: gnome-icon-theme
Source-Version: 2.24.0-3

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
gnome-icon-theme, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-3.diff.gz
  to pool/main/g/gnome-icon-theme/gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-3.diff.gz
gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-3.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gnome-icon-theme/gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-3.dsc
gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-3_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/gnome-icon-theme/gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-3_all.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 516566@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> (supplier of updated gnome-icon-theme package)

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:33:37 +0100
Source: gnome-icon-theme
Binary: gnome-icon-theme
Architecture: source all
Version: 2.24.0-3
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
Changed-By: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
Description: 
 gnome-icon-theme - GNOME Desktop icon theme
Closes: 516566
Changes: 
 gnome-icon-theme (2.24.0-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/start-here.svg: ship a Debian/GNOME logo for the menu.
   * rules: replace the standard icons with it. Closes: #516566.
   * Standards version is 3.8.1.
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Message #17 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hongzheng Wang <wanghz@gmail.com>

To: 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Looks not so good

Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:01:32 +0800

Hi,

Put a distribution specific logo here is a common way to obtain
certain recognition value, nowadays, in many other distributions.  But
I wonder if Debian should follow the tradition definitely, given the
good long history that the official appearance is unchanged.  An
obvious fact is that the new start-here logo looks not in tune with
other default appearance settings of gnome packaged by Debian.  So, I
suggest to keep the official start-here logo and provide
Debian-specific one as an option or even another separate theme
package.

This is my personal opinion.  Any suggestions are welcome :)

-- 
HZ

Message #22 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Apelete Seketeli <apelete@seketeli.org>

To: 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: More than just ugly

Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:48:14 +0100

Hello,

I completely agree with what Wang said above.
Plus, what exactly is this new icon ? It's not a Debian swirl, it's
not a Gnome foot, it's something between both and it's just FUGLY.
Please adopt either a standard Debian swirl, or the normal Gnome foot
(it was perfect and I loved the fact that Debian didn't change it) but
not some kind of monstrosity like the one we have now.

Thanks for the effort anyway,
Keep it up.
--
Apelete Seketeli <apelete@seketeli.org>

Message #27 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>

To: 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: gnome-icon-theme: 516566: move it to desktop-base

Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:39:02 +0900

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I'd really like to see the Debian branded GNOME menu image moved to
desktop-base so that it is easy to remove.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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Message #32 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>, 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#516566: gnome-icon-theme: 516566: move it to desktop-base

Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:30:06 +0100

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Le samedi 21 mars 2009 à 16:39 +0900, Paul Wise a écrit :
> I'd really like to see the Debian branded GNOME menu image moved to
> desktop-base so that it is easy to remove.

In theory, that sounds good. In practice, that implies using diversions,
which are BAD(tm), and it has a chance to break icon caching, so it’s
not that simple.

Cheers,
-- 
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Message #37 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fabian Greffrath <greffrath@leat.rub.de>

To: 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#516566: gnome-icon-theme: 516566: move it to desktop-base

Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:17:06 +0100

> In theory, that sounds good. In practice, that implies using diversions,
> which are BAD(tm), and it has a chance to break icon caching, so it’s
> not that simple.

Maybe we could work with a fallback icon? How about this:

- The original start-here icon in the gnome-icon-theme package is
  renamed to start-here-gnome
- The Debian swirl logo will be provided as start-here icon in the
  desktop-base package
- gnome-icon-theme recommends desktop-base
- If desktop-base is not installed, GNOME applications won't find the
  start-here icon anymore and should use the start-here-gnome icon
  instead (fallback)

This way the Debian desktop would be branded by default. The branding 
could be easily removed and the original state restored by removing 
the desktop-base package. No diversions between packages would be 
necessary in this scenario. Sounds reasonable?

Cheers,
Fabian


-- 
Dipl.-Phys. Fabian Greffrath

Ruhr-Universität Bochum
Lehrstuhl für Energieanlagen und Energieprozesstechnik (LEAT)
Universitätsstr. 150, IB 3/134
D-44780 Bochum

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Message #42 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: Fabian Greffrath <greffrath@leat.rub.de>, 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#516566: gnome-icon-theme: 516566: move it to desktop-base

Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:59:05 +0100

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Le lundi 23 mars 2009 à 09:17 +0100, Fabian Greffrath a écrit :
> Maybe we could work with a fallback icon? How about this:
> 
> - The original start-here icon in the gnome-icon-theme package is
>    renamed to start-here-gnome
> - The Debian swirl logo will be provided as start-here icon in the
>    desktop-base package
> - gnome-icon-theme recommends desktop-base
> - If desktop-base is not installed, GNOME applications won't find the
>    start-here icon anymore and should use the start-here-gnome icon
>    instead (fallback)

I don’t know whether the fallback mechanism will work as expected.

Instead, I think the safe route is to use diversions.

-- 
 .''`.      Debian 5.0 "Lenny" has been released!
: :' :
`. `'   Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told
  `-    me that if you don't install Lenny, he'd melt your brain.

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Message #47 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fabian Greffrath <greffrath@leat.rub.de>

To: 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#516566: gnome-icon-theme: 516566: move it to desktop-base

Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:49:41 +0100

Josselin Mouette schrieb:
> I don’t know whether the fallback mechanism will work as expected.
> Instead, I think the safe route is to use diversions.

Alright. So the branding will be removed as soon as desktop-base is 
removed? Or maybe another package, debian-brading, should be 
introduced (maybe even from the desktop-base source) that also 
contains branded splash screens for e.g. gimp, ooo, etc. I think a 
similar approach has once been presented on planet.d.o.

-- 
Dipl.-Phys. Fabian Greffrath

Ruhr-Universität Bochum
Lehrstuhl für Energieanlagen und Energieprozesstechnik (LEAT)
Universitätsstr. 150, IB 3/134
D-44780 Bochum

Telefon: +49 (0)234 / 32-26334
Fax:     +49 (0)234 / 32-14227
E-Mail:  greffrath@leat.ruhr-uni-bochum.de

Message #52 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fabian Greffrath <greffrath@leat.rub.de>

To: 516566@bugs.debian.org, control <control@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#516566: gnome-icon-theme: 516566: move it to desktop-base

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:45:38 +0100

found 516566 2.24.0-3
retitle 516566 Replace the "swirl foot" icon with the Debian swirl
thanks

Hi,

my initial request was to use the Debian swirl logo as the start-here 
icon and judging from the poll at [1] the majority of people who care 
seem to share my opinion. As the bug submitter I take the right to 
reopen it. ;)

Cheers,
Fabian


[1] http://doodle.com/pifrrr3zc7a773rs


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Dipl.-Phys. Fabian Greffrath

Ruhr-Universität Bochum
Lehrstuhl für Energieanlagen und Energieprozesstechnik (LEAT)
Universitätsstr. 150, IB 3/134
D-44780 Bochum

Telefon: +49 (0)234 / 32-26334
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Message #61 received at 516566-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: 516566-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#516566: fixed in gnome-icon-theme 2.24.0-4

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:17:44 +0000

Source: gnome-icon-theme
Source-Version: 2.24.0-4

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
gnome-icon-theme, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-4.diff.gz
  to pool/main/g/gnome-icon-theme/gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-4.diff.gz
gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-4.dsc
  to pool/main/g/gnome-icon-theme/gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-4.dsc
gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-4_all.deb
  to pool/main/g/gnome-icon-theme/gnome-icon-theme_2.24.0-4_all.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 516566@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> (supplier of updated gnome-icon-theme package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
administrators by mailing ftpmaster@debian.org)


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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:02:01 +0100
Source: gnome-icon-theme
Binary: gnome-icon-theme
Architecture: source all
Version: 2.24.0-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
Changed-By: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
Description: 
 gnome-icon-theme - GNOME Desktop icon theme
Closes: 484684 514995 516566
Changes: 
 gnome-icon-theme (2.24.0-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add missing build-dependency on librsvg2-bin.
   * start-here.svg: fix the colors so that they match the original
     Debian swirl, and integrate better.
   * Rebuild against a recent icon-naming-utils. Closes: #514995.
   * Rename start-here.svg to swirl-foot.svg, also provide a
     debian-swirl.svg icon.
   * Use alternatives to select the default icon, the highest priority
     goes to debian-swirl according to the poll. Closes: #516566.
   * Handle icon caches by hand; pass --no-act to dh_icons.
     Closes: #484684.
   * Register a trigger so that the cache is regerenerated when
     necessary.
   * Depend on libgtk2.0-bin to have gtk-update-icon-cache.
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Message #66 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Apelete Seketeli <apelete@seketeli.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <516566@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: gnome-icon-theme: Update-alternatives does not change start-here logo

Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:43:34 +0100

Package: gnome-icon-theme
Version: 2.24.0-4
Severity: normal

I've tried to change the start-here logo using update-alternatives, and even though /etc/alternatives/start-here.svg links to the right icon (the one I chose using update-alternatives), the start-here logo hasn't change in the gnome menu.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages gnome-icon-theme depends on:
ii  hicolor-icon-theme            0.10-2     default fallback theme for FreeDes
ii  libgtk2.0-bin                 2.14.7-5   The programs for the GTK+ graphica
ii  librsvg2-common               2.22.3-2   SAX-based renderer library for SVG

gnome-icon-theme recommends no packages.

gnome-icon-theme suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

Message #71 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

To: Apelete Seketeli <apelete@seketeli.org>, 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#516566: gnome-icon-theme: Update-alternatives does not change start-here logo

Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:31:26 +0200

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block 516566 by 521813
thanks

Le jeudi 26 mars 2009 à 21:43 +0100, Apelete Seketeli a écrit :
> Package: gnome-icon-theme
> Version: 2.24.0-4
> Severity: normal
> 
> I've tried to change the start-here logo using update-alternatives,
> and even though /etc/alternatives/start-here.svg links to the right
> icon (the one I chose using update-alternatives), the start-here logo
> hasn't change in the gnome menu.

After changing the alternative, you need to regenerate the cache with
"update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/gnome".

I have added this mention in the documentation, but for this to happen
automatically, update-alternatives would have to support hooks, and
currently this is not the case.

Cheers,
-- 
 .''`.      Debian 5.0 "Lenny" has been released!
: :' :
`. `'   Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told
  `-    me that if you don't install Lenny, he'd melt your brain.

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Message #78 received at 516566@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Apelete Seketeli <apelete@seketeli.org>

To: 516566@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#516566: gnome-icon-theme: Update-alternatives does not change start-here logo

Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:31:15 +0200

2009/3/30 Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>:

> After changing the alternative, you need to regenerate the cache with
> "update-icon-caches /usr/share/icons/gnome".

Ok, I read something about icon caching in the changelog and thought a
gtk-update-icon-cache would do the trick, but it seems I wasn't quite
right...

> I have added this mention in the documentation, but for this to happen
> automatically, update-alternatives would have to support hooks, and
> currently this is not the case.

Like I said I should have remember update-icon-caches, since
gtk-update-icon-cache wasn't working for this problem.
Sorry for the useless bug report, will try harder to be better at
submitting (useful) bugs next time :-)

Cheers.
--
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