Debian Bug report logs - #839046
debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:47:21 +0200

Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.83

As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was quite
positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.

I'm not aware of any regressions so far, except for having forgotten to
add "jessie-kfreebsd" to the blacklist (a list of older releases that
don't support merged-/usr) and debootstrap 1.0.83 failing to bootstrap
squeeze[2].  Both are fixed in my changes targeted at 1.0.84[3].

So I would like to switch the default in debootstrap sooner rather than
later to give time to find some more bugs.  With this change, the
currently known bugs[4] should also be raised to "serious", but I don't
think any of them should be a blocker.

Ansgar

  [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>
  [2] <https://bugs.debian.org/838388>
  [3] <https://github.com/aburch/debootstrap>
  [4] <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=usrmerge;users=md@linux.it>

Message #12 received at 839046-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: 839046-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#839046: fixed in debootstrap 1.0.85

Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 19:49:01 +0000

Source: debootstrap
Source-Version: 1.0.85

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debootstrap, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 839046@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> (supplier of updated debootstrap package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
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Format: 1.8
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 20:22:49 +0200
Source: debootstrap
Binary: debootstrap debootstrap-udeb
Architecture: source
Version: 1.0.85
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
Description:
 debootstrap - Bootstrap a basic Debian system
 debootstrap-udeb - Bootstrap the Debian system (udeb)
Closes: 548880 792734 825034 838388 839046
Changes:
 debootstrap (1.0.85) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Julien Cristau ]
   * Add support for downloading and validating InRelease files, by splitting
     up detached signature from signed data.
   * Switch default mirror to deb.debian.org.
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Add (Ubuntu) zesty as a symlink to gutsy.
 .
   [ Ansgar Burchardt ]
   * Add jessie-kfreebsd to merged-/usr blacklist.
   * No longer Build-Depend on makedev. The code using it was already
     removed in debootstrap 1.0.82.
   * Do not use `tar -k` for older releases which might have file
     conflicts between the packages to be installed. (Closes: #838388)
   * Error out when seeing short options. (Closes: #548880)
   * Add oldoldstable -> sid script symlink. (Closes: #792734)
   * Add buster -> sid and bullseye -> sid script symlinks.
   * Only unpack and configure the base system when there are actually
     packages to install. (Closes: #825034)
   * debootstrap.8: Use stretch instead of wheezy in examples.
 .
   [ Marco d'Itri ]
   * Enable merged-/usr by default. (Closes: #839046)
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Message #21 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 11:13:14 +0200 (CEST)

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, root wrote:

> debootstrap (1.0.85) unstable; urgency=medium

>   * Enable merged-/usr by default. (Closes: #839046)

This leaves the question: how can we install stretch
without usrmerge?

Thanks,
//mirabilos
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Message #26 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)

To: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 11:24:31 +0200

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On Oct 24, Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:

> This leaves the question: how can we install stretch
> without usrmerge?
By using the appropriate debootstrap switch.
But the real question would be: why would you want to do that?

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ciao,
Marco

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Message #31 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>

To: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:29:51 +0200 (CEST)

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> On Oct 24, Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:
> 
> > This leaves the question: how can we install stretch
> > without usrmerge?

> By using the appropriate debootstrap switch.

In d-i?

> But the real question would be: why would you want to do that?

Umm, perhaps because I prefer my system to behave in a way
consistent with previous and other systems, and because of
personal preference, and because you kinda indicated that
you would *not* force Debian to require a merged /usr and
I kinda wish to cash in that promise.

Thanks,
//mirabilos
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Message #36 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

To: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:33:02 +0200

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On Oct 24, Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:

> > By using the appropriate debootstrap switch.
> In d-i?
A corresponding switch has not been implemented in d-i, but maybe you 
can persuade the d-i maintainers to accept a patch.

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Marco

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Message #45 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:35:07 +0100

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Control: found -1 1.0.87

Hi there!

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:47:21 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>
wrote:
> Package: debootstrap
> Version: 1.0.83
> 
> As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
> default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was quite
> positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.
> 
> I'm not aware of any regressions so far, except for having forgotten to
> add "jessie-kfreebsd" to the blacklist (a list of older releases that
> don't support merged-/usr) and debootstrap 1.0.83 failing to bootstrap
> squeeze[2].  Both are fixed in my changes targeted at 1.0.84[3].
> 
> So I would like to switch the default in debootstrap sooner rather than
> later to give time to find some more bugs.  With this change, the
> currently known bugs[4] should also be raised to "serious", but I don't
> think any of them should be a blocker.
> 
> Ansgar
> 
>   [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>
>   [2] <https://bugs.debian.org/838388>
>   [3] <https://github.com/aburch/debootstrap>
>   [4] <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=usrmerge;users=md@linux.it>


This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
that version.

The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
be great if this bug report could be re-considered.

Regards,
Michael


[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=843073

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Message #52 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:21:46 +0100

On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Control: found -1 1.0.87
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:47:21 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>
> wrote:
>> Package: debootstrap
>> Version: 1.0.83
>>
>> As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
>> default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was quite
>> positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.
>>
>> I'm not aware of any regressions so far, except for having forgotten to
>> add "jessie-kfreebsd" to the blacklist (a list of older releases that
>> don't support merged-/usr) and debootstrap 1.0.83 failing to bootstrap
>> squeeze[2].  Both are fixed in my changes targeted at 1.0.84[3].
>>
>> So I would like to switch the default in debootstrap sooner rather than
>> later to give time to find some more bugs.  With this change, the
>> currently known bugs[4] should also be raised to "serious", but I don't
>> think any of them should be a blocker.
>>
>> Ansgar
>>
>>   [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>
>>   [2] <https://bugs.debian.org/838388>
>>   [3] <https://github.com/aburch/debootstrap>
>>   [4] <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=usrmerge;users=md@linux.it>
> 
> 
> This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> that version.
> 
> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> 
That'll be after stretch now.

Cheers,
Julien

Message #57 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:56:19 +0100

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Am 20.12.2016 um 09:21 schrieb Julien Cristau:
> On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:

>> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
>> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
>>
> That'll be after stretch now.

I can understand your decision even if it makes me a bit sad that this
feature didn't make it in time.

That said, it would be great if this change can be merged as soon as
buster is open for development.

Michael
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Message #62 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:18:35 +0100

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Am 20.12.2016 um 10:56 schrieb Michael Biebl:
> Am 20.12.2016 um 09:21 schrieb Julien Cristau:
>> On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 
>>> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
>>> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
>>>
>> That'll be after stretch now.
> 
> I can understand your decision even if it makes me a bit sad that this
> feature didn't make it in time.

To make it clear, with "this feature", I didn't mean this particular bug
report or the dpkg-shlibdeps bug report, but the merged-usr feature itself.
Just wanted to clarify in order to to avoid any misunderstanding.

Cheers,
Michael

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Message #67 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:38:07 +0200

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Hi Julien

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:56:19 +0100 Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
> Am 20.12.2016 um 09:21 schrieb Julien Cristau:
> > On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 
> >> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> >> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> >>
> > That'll be after stretch now.
> 
> I can understand your decision even if it makes me a bit sad that this
> feature didn't make it in time.
> 
> That said, it would be great if this change can be merged as soon as
> buster is open for development.

We are very early in the buster development cycle so it would be great
opportunity to give this another try.

Are you ok with applying Ansgar's  patch again?

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Message #74 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:49:37 +0100

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On Dec 20, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:

> > This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> > properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> > that version.
> > 
> > The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> > be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> That'll be after stretch now.
Stretch was been released long ago: please re-enable --merged-usr in 
debootstrap.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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Message #79 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 09:16:40 +0100

On Dec 23, md wrote:

> On Dec 20, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > > This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> > > properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> > > that version.
> > > 
> > > The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> > > be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> > That'll be after stretch now.
> Stretch was been released long ago: please re-enable --merged-usr in 
> debootstrap.
There has not been any negative feedback, can we move on please?
If anybody wants to discuss this in person I will be at FOSDEM.

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Marco

Message #84 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 20:19:33 +0100

On Sat, Feb  3, 2018 at 09:16:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> On Dec 23, md wrote:
> 
> > On Dec 20, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > > This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> > > > properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> > > > that version.
> > > > 
> > > > The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> > > > be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> > > That'll be after stretch now.
> > Stretch was been released long ago: please re-enable --merged-usr in 
> > debootstrap.
> There has not been any negative feedback, can we move on please?

Is there buy-in from the dpkg maintainer?

Cheers,
Julien

Message #89 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>, debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 22:32:05 +0000

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On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 08:19:33PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Sat, Feb  3, 2018 at 09:16:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Dec 23, md wrote:
> > > On Dec 20, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
> > > > > This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> > > > > properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> > > > > that version.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> > > > > be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> > > > That'll be after stretch now.
> > > Stretch was been released long ago: please re-enable --merged-usr in 
> > > debootstrap.
> > There has not been any negative feedback, can we move on please?
> Is there buy-in from the dpkg maintainer?

cc:ing them.


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Message #94 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:19:07 +0000

I had a conversation with Marco about this at FOSDEM.  I'm sorry to
say that I still don't understand why we would make this change.

The links provided do not explain what the benefits are.  And there
are downsides.

One obvious downside is reduced testing of existing systems which have
filesystem layouts not easily compatible with "merged /usr" (or at
least, not compatible without wholesale moving of stuff about, which
seems like a risk which would need a substantial justification).

Another bad consequence is that some existing configurations that do
not, for whatever reason, mount /usr early, will be harder to set up.
One may argue (as Russ cogently does) that the distinction between
/usr and / cannot be coherently maintained as a distro-wide property
of software if we take into account all the realistic use cases.  But
there are some traditional configurations where the distinction _can_
be maintained and we shouldn't break those things without a reason.

Also, I fear that unless we provide a straightforward way to retain
separate /usr, including an appropriate d-i command line option, we
will get further pushback and anger from traditionalists.  We risk
reopening old wounds (see some of the less temperate responses earlier
in the thread Ansgar links to as [1]).  If there are benefits of
changing the default arrangement of new installs, it would be worth
thinking how those benefits could be obtained without the damage to
our community (even if the objections are felt, by many people, to be
technically unsound).

Finally, I have to say that I think that this summary from Ansgar
is not really accurate:

> As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
> default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was
> quite positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.
...
> [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>

That is a link to a message from Russ which mostly explains why
mounting /usr early (ie in the initramfs, by default) is a good idea.
That has now been implemented and has caused very little push-back.

But this bug report requests something entirely different: it is about
actually moving the contents of /bin into /usr/bin, etc.

It is also not fair to say that the discussion was "quite positive".
There was a good deal of opposition of various kinds, much of it
quite heated.

Thanks for your attention,
Ian.

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Message #99 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>

To: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 14:40:46 +0100

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Hi Ian,

You're not citing any concrete examples of things that will supposedly
break.

AFAICS the closest you got was:

On Sat, 10 Feb 2018, Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Another bad consequence is that some existing configurations that do
> not, for whatever reason, mount /usr early, will be harder to set up.

Which might be a fair point, except that late mounting of /usr became
explicitly unsupported with the release of Stretch:

  https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/armel/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#late-mounting-usr

The adoption of usrmerge was blocked before on the basis that it was too
late in the release cycle.  We are now fairly early in the release cycle.

That being the case, I think we should let the people volunteering to do
the work to get on with it without delay. That way there will be plenty
of time to address any real downsides that might be revealed.

Cheers, Phil.

P.S. I've not even installed usrmerge on any systems as yet, so please
don't assume that I'm a rabid supporter of this effort -- it just seems
entirely sane to me, whereas the pushback you pointed at ... not so much.
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Message #104 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org>

To: Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

Cc: debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:06:25 +0100

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On 02/11/2018 02:40 PM, Philip Hands wrote:
> That being the case, I think we should let the people volunteering to do
> the work to get on with it without delay. That way there will be plenty
> of time to address any real downsides that might be revealed.

Something I did notice yesterday by accident is that ldd points to
libraries being loaded from /lib. Which is fine except that then you
can't put them into dpkg -S because dpkg does not know about the
aliasing that happens here. I suppose this is because /lib/* is listed
before /usr/lib/* in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*-linux-gnu.conf. I suppose if
one wants to use the output to find the packages associated, one needs
to roundtrip through realpath once. But then again you might miss files
actually installed by dpkg into /lib.

So I think the question of "is there buy-in from the dpkg maintainers to
support the outcome" is not a bad one. ;-)

Kind regards
Philipp Kern

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Message #109 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>

To: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>

Cc: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>, debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 04:00:49 +0100

On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 22:32:05 +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 08:19:33PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb  3, 2018 at 09:16:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > On Dec 23, md wrote:
> > > > On Dec 20, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
> > > > > > This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> > > > > > properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> > > > > > that version.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> > > > > > be great if this bug report could be re-considered.

> > > > > That'll be after stretch now.

> > > > Stretch was been released long ago: please re-enable --merged-usr in 
> > > > debootstrap.

> > > There has not been any negative feedback, can we move on please?

> > Is there buy-in from the dpkg maintainer?

As I've mentioned in the past, I think the usrmerge filesystem layout
has merit and can solve some issues, and to state it very clearly, I
have no technical issue with it *what*so*ever*. But the same can be
said about the non-usrmerge layout with multiple mount-points, which
while not general anymore in Debian, can still be used perfectly fine
on controlled subsets of packages and custom built kernels w/o reliance
on an initramfs.

What I still find to be terrible is the way it's been tried to be
deployed in Debian, via the usrmerge package, which does not support
reverting the change (#848626), for which there's (AFAIK) no way to
select not using this irreversible hack from d-i, which breaks
dpkg-query --search (at least #848622 and #858331). This seems like
a nice PoV for people to play with it, in the same way local admins
can use, to some extent, symlinks to redirect subtrees to other mount
points, but I don't see how this can be seen as a production-ready
solution shipped by default, TBH.

In any case, I looked the other day into implementing the
--map-pathname option for dpkg-query, and I've got most of the code
ready. The problem is that this requires adding support for config
files and config fragments to dpkg-query, which has the additional
problem of making it possible to mess with the --showformat option
and breaking the expectations from maintscripts, for example. The
other problem is with the search behavior changing depending on the
packages providing those mappings being installed (because dpkg would
certainly not provide them).


So I'll eventually try to find a solution for the dpkg-query issue,
because it's a long-standing paper-cut in dpkg for local admins. But
I'd not be very amused if this hack is enabled by default again and
suddenly RC bugs start popping up in dpkg again, and people start
pressuring with RCness to get those fixed again because well, it's
obviously breaking people's systems…


Thanks,
Guillem

Message #112 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

To: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:13:04 +0100

Ian Jackson writes:
> Also, I fear that unless we provide a straightforward way to retain
> separate /usr, including an appropriate d-i command line option, we
> will get further pushback and anger from traditionalists.  We risk
> reopening old wounds (see some of the less temperate responses earlier
> in the thread Ansgar links to as [1]).

There were 11 mails in the thread I linked as [1] in my initial mail.
None were really negative, just one person wondering if this means /
and /usr on separate filesystems is no longer supported (even though I
explicitly said it is in my initial mail).

Also, switching to merged-/usr, but still supporting non-merged-/usr
beyond a transition period means one uses one of the benefits for
maintainers no longer having to care where to install libraries or
programs (or worse: having to move them between / and /usr because
someone would like to use some additional program in early boot or a new
upstream release has support for some new feature requiring a library in
/usr).

I assume the less temperate responses are ones as [no argument]?  I
don't believe that one shouldn't base any decisions on less temperate
responses someone makes on the internet.  That way no change ever could
be implemented.  (What happens when I write less temperate responses to
the less temperate responses calling a proposal shit without any
argument?  Do I invalidate their less temperate response too or is that
reserved to the initial less temperate response?)

I strongly prefer technical reasons instead, such as the issue with
`dpkg -S` that was mentioned by Guillem.

  [no argument]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/01/msg00005.html

[...]
> Finally, I have to say that I think that this summary from Ansgar
> is not really accurate:

I think that your summary is far less accurate than mine ;-)

>> As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
>> default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was
>> quite positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.
> ...
>> [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>
>
> That is a link to a message from Russ which mostly explains why
> mounting /usr early (ie in the initramfs, by default) is a good idea.
> That has now been implemented and has caused very little push-back.

No, that's a link to a message by me.

> But this bug report requests something entirely different: it is about
> actually moving the contents of /bin into /usr/bin, etc.

That is also what the linked mail is about.

> It is also not fair to say that the discussion was "quite positive".
> There was a good deal of opposition of various kinds, much of it
> quite heated.

Why not?  None of the 11 mails was really negative.

Ansgar

Message #115 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:17:38 +0100

Guillem Jover writes:
> In any case, I looked the other day into implementing the
> --map-pathname option for dpkg-query, and I've got most of the code
> ready. The problem is that this requires adding support for config
> files and config fragments to dpkg-query, which has the additional
> problem of making it possible to mess with the --showformat option
> and breaking the expectations from maintscripts, for example. The
> other problem is with the search behavior changing depending on the
> packages providing those mappings being installed (because dpkg would
> certainly not provide them).

So who should provide them?  debootstrap?  base-files?

The correct long-term fix is probably for packages to eventually install
to the location in /usr anyway.  That doesn't work without some
transition period of 1-2 releases though.

Ansgar

Message #120 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>

To: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>

Cc: debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org, Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:29:09 +0100

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Guillem Jover writes:
> > In any case, I looked the other day into implementing the
> > --map-pathname option for dpkg-query, and I've got most of the code
> > ready. The problem is that this requires adding support for config
> > files and config fragments to dpkg-query, which has the additional
> > problem of making it possible to mess with the --showformat option
> > and breaking the expectations from maintscripts, for example. The
> > other problem is with the search behavior changing depending on the
> > packages providing those mappings being installed (because dpkg would
> > certainly not provide them).
> 
> So who should provide them?  debootstrap?  base-files?

It certainly makes sense for debootstrap to create those files given it
creates the symlinks in the first place.

An alternative solution could be to reuse the usrmerge package and let
debootstrap install this package if it exists. That way the usrmerge
package would exist until Debian switched entirely to put everything into
/usr/bin.

> The correct long-term fix is probably for packages to eventually install
> to the location in /usr anyway.  That doesn't work without some
> transition period of 1-2 releases though.

Ack.

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Guillem Jover wrote about usrmerge:
> This seems like a nice PoV for people to play with it, in the same way
> local admins can use, to some extent, symlinks to redirect subtrees to
> other mount points, but I don't see how this can be seen as a
> production-ready solution shipped by default, TBH.

Note that the change in debootstrap does not install usrmerge currently.
It only creates the required symlinks.

<reminder>
But this is enough to confuse "dpkg -S". This used to break dpkg-shlibdeps
and was the main reason for the initial revert. Fortunately dpkg-shlibdeps has
been fixed to try multiple paths until it can find the package owning the
library.
</reminder>

It might be that we will find other tools confused by "dpkg -S" non-answer
on some /lib/* or /usr/lib/* paths and some end users will definitely be surprised by
this.

Obviously we can document the problem in release notes but it would be
better to have a clean solution like suggested by Guillem:

> In any case, I looked the other day into implementing the
> --map-pathname option for dpkg-query, and I've got most of the code
> ready.

If this is forthcoming in the buster timeframe, it seems reasonable to
go ahead and re-enable the merged-usr by default. However to be able to
ship the new configuration files once their format is known, it would be
better for debootstrap to install a package whose role will be to provide
those configuration files ASAP after dpkg starts to support them.

> The problem is that this requires adding support for config
> files and config fragments to dpkg-query, which has the additional
> problem of making it possible to mess with the --showformat option
> and breaking the expectations from maintscripts, for example.

Forbid those options there? Do not parse those files if you detect
an environment variable DPKG_RUNNING_VERSION?

> The other problem is with the search behavior changing depending on the
> packages providing those mappings being installed (because dpkg would
> certainly not provide them).

That's the whole point of it so I would not consider this a problem.

> So I'll eventually try to find a solution for the dpkg-query issue,
> because it's a long-standing paper-cut in dpkg for local admins. But
> I'd not be very amused if this hack is enabled by default again and
> suddenly RC bugs start popping up in dpkg again, and people start
> pressuring with RCness to get those fixed again because well, it's
> obviously breaking people's systems…

Are you considering both "usrmerge" and "debootstrap creating symlinks" as
hacks even once they would provide mapping data for dpkg --search?

I believe that we have had quite some testing already last time and I
would be surprised if we got many more RC bugs on dpkg that had to be fixed
on a short timeframe. I guess nobody can give you any assurance but
I'm sure that you can downgrade those bugs pointing to this discussion
and showing that this was part of the deal.

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

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Message #125 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>, debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org, Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>, Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:41:11 +0100

On 02/13/2018 04:29 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> I believe that we have had quite some testing already last time and I
> would be surprised if we got many more RC bugs on dpkg that had to be fixed
> on a short timeframe. I guess nobody can give you any assurance but
> I'm sure that you can downgrade those bugs pointing to this discussion
> and showing that this was part of the deal.
> 
If we break user systems we don't get to downgrade bugs on the basis
that "we knew we were doing a half assed job with this transition".
That's not part of the deal we're making with our users.

Cheers,
Julien

Message #130 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>, Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org>, debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org, Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>, Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 11:54:00 +0100

On Tue, 13 Feb 2018, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On 02/13/2018 04:29 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > I believe that we have had quite some testing already last time and I
> > would be surprised if we got many more RC bugs on dpkg that had to be fixed
> > on a short timeframe. I guess nobody can give you any assurance but
> > I'm sure that you can downgrade those bugs pointing to this discussion
> > and showing that this was part of the deal.
> 
> If we break user systems we don't get to downgrade bugs on the basis
> that "we knew we were doing a half assed job with this transition".
> That's not part of the deal we're making with our users.

Granted, but RC bugs against dpkg does not translate into "break user
systems". I would be very surprised if we found out a tool using dpkg
--search that would break the system on which it is running because
it did not get an answer to a specific dpkg --search query.

Cheers,
-- 
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Message #139 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>

Cc: Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>, debian-boot@lists.debian.org, debian-dpkg@lists.debian.org, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Processed: block 839046 with 134758

Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 12:08:36 +0200

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On May 07, Debian Bug Tracking System <owner@bugs.debian.org> wrote:

> > block 839046 with 134758
> Bug #839046 [debootstrap] debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default
> Bug #839162 [debootstrap] Enabled merged-/usr by default
I totally disagree that this is in any way a blocking issue: it is at 
best cosmetical since dpkg has always worked this way.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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Message #144 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: [PATCH] Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed (Closes: #839046)

Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 11:37:32 +0200

---
 debian/changelog | 7 ++++++-
 debootstrap      | 4 ++--
 debootstrap.8    | 2 +-
 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index 3463794..48c0cfd 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -1,9 +1,14 @@
 debootstrap (1.0.100) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium
 
+  [ Hideki Yamane ]
   * Specify https mirror to check https mirror specific problem
     (See #896071)
 
- -- Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.org>  Thu, 17 May 2018 17:48:55 +0900
+  [ Laurent Bigonville ]
+  * Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed
+    (Closes: #839046)
+
+ -- Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>  Thu, 17 May 2018 11:05:13 +0200
 
 debootstrap (1.0.99) unstable; urgency=medium
 
diff --git a/debootstrap b/debootstrap
index 6d8b3f4..dcc155e 100755
--- a/debootstrap
+++ b/debootstrap
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ KEYRING=""
 DISABLE_KEYRING=""
 FORCE_KEYRING=""
 VARIANT=""
-MERGED_USR="no"
+MERGED_USR="yes"
 ARCH=""
 HOST_ARCH=""
 HOST_OS=""
@@ -102,7 +102,7 @@ usage()
       --variant=X            use variant X of the bootstrap scripts
                              (currently supported variants: buildd, fakechroot,
                               minbase)
-      --merged-usr           make /{bin,sbin,lib}/ symlinks to /usr/
+      --no-merged-usr        do not make /{bin,sbin,lib}/ symlinks to /usr/
       --keyring=K            check Release files against keyring K
       --no-check-gpg         avoid checking Release file signatures
       --force-check-gpg      force checking Release file signatures
diff --git a/debootstrap.8 b/debootstrap.8
index 426a90b..dc1d17a 100644
--- a/debootstrap.8
+++ b/debootstrap.8
@@ -82,10 +82,10 @@ base Debian installation with all packages of priority \fIrequired\fR and
 .IP
 .IP "\fB\-\-merged-usr\fP"
 Create /{bin,sbin,lib}/ symlinks pointing to their counterparts in /usr/.
+(Default.)
 .IP
 .IP "\fB\-\-no-merged-usr\fP"
 Do not create /{bin,sbin,lib}/ symlinks pointing to their counterparts in /usr/.
-(Default.)
 .IP
 .IP "\fB\-\-keyring=KEYRING\fP"
 Override the default keyring for the distribution being bootstrapped,
-- 
2.17.0

Message #149 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hideki Yamane <henrich@iijmio-mail.jp>

To: Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: [PATCH] Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed (Closes: #839046)

Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 14:16:39 +0900

On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:37:32 +0200
Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org> wrote:
> +  * Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed

 Is it applied to from buster to sid?
 It maybe break the enviroment until stretch release.


-- 
Regards,

 Hideki Yamane     henrich @ debian.org/iijmio-mail.jp

Message #154 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>

To: Hideki Yamane <henrich@iijmio-mail.jp>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: [PATCH] Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed (Closes: #839046)

Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 16:21:01 +0200

On Sat, 19 May 2018, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:37:32 +0200
> Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org> wrote:
> > +  * Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed
> 
>  Is it applied to from buster to sid?
>  It maybe break the enviroment until stretch release.

I don't understand your question. The required fixes are in the version of
dpkg that is in stretch.

See #843073 for details (fixes applied in dpkg 1.18.17).

Cheers,
-- 
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Message #161 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hideki Yamane <henrich@iijmio-mail.jp>

To: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: [PATCH] Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed (Closes: #839046)

Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 11:14:55 +0900

On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:21:01 +0200
Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> wrote:
> I don't understand your question. The required fixes are in the version of
> dpkg that is in stretch.

 I mean, if we try to create new stretch chroot with merged-usr,
 it becomes to be NOT equal to stretch environment since its /lib*,
 /bin and /sbin are merged to /usr. We should not apply it for pre-buster,
 IMHO.


-- 
Regards,

 Hideki Yamane     henrich @ debian.org/iijmio-mail.jp

Message #166 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>

To: Hideki Yamane <henrich@iijmio-mail.jp>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: [PATCH] Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed (Closes: #839046)

Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 21:08:42 +0200

Hi,

On Sun, 27 May 2018, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:21:01 +0200
> Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> wrote:
> > I don't understand your question. The required fixes are in the version of
> > dpkg that is in stretch.
> 
>  I mean, if we try to create new stretch chroot with merged-usr,
>  it becomes to be NOT equal to stretch environment since its /lib*,
>  /bin and /sbin are merged to /usr. We should not apply it for pre-buster,
>  IMHO.

The same will hold true even for buster+1 given that stretch will
still be supported at that time.

If anything your argument would mean that we should have different default
for the --merged-usr flag for different release. This might indeed be
important if we want to make sure that recent debootstrap do not introduce
unexpected problems when building chroot for very old releases.

Cheers,
-- 
Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

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Message #171 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hideki Yamane <henrich@iijmio-mail.jp>

To: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: [PATCH] Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed (Closes: #839046)

Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 09:31:03 +0900

On Sun, 27 May 2018 21:08:42 +0200
Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> wrote:
> If anything your argument would mean that we should have different default
> for the --merged-usr flag for different release. This might indeed be
> important if we want to make sure that recent debootstrap do not introduce
> unexpected problems when building chroot for very old releases.

 Yes, I mean that.

-- 
Regards,

 Hideki Yamane     henrich @ debian.org/iijmio-mail.jp

Message #174 received at 839046-submitter@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: henrich@debian.org

To: 839046-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug #839046 in debootstrap marked as pending

Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 01:18:59 +0000

Control: tag -1 pending

Hello,

Bug #839046 in debootstrap reported by you has been fixed in the
Git repository and is awaiting an upload. You can see the commit
message below, and you can check the diff of the fix at:

https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/commit/7b758928c238441107aebdd6e1251dd22b4cedfb

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Enable merged-/usr by default again

  [ Laurent Bigonville ]
  * Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed
    (Closes: #839046)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

(this message was generated automatically)
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Greetings

https://bugs.debian.org/839046

Message #181 received at 839046-submitter@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: henrich@debian.org

To: 839046-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug #839046 in debootstrap marked as pending

Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:38:47 +0000

Control: tag -1 pending

Hello,

Bug #839046 in debootstrap reported by you has been fixed in the
Git repository and is awaiting an upload. You can see the commit
message below, and you can check the diff of the fix at:

https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/commit/7b758928c238441107aebdd6e1251dd22b4cedfb

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Enable merged-/usr by default again

  [ Laurent Bigonville ]
  * Enable merged-/usr by default again now that dpkg-shlibdeps is fixed
    (Closes: #839046)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

(this message was generated automatically)
-- 
Greetings

https://bugs.debian.org/839046

Message #188 received at 839046-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.org>

To: 839046-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#839046: fixed in debootstrap 1.0.102

Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 13:49:20 +0000

Source: debootstrap
Source-Version: 1.0.102

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debootstrap, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 839046@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.org> (supplier of updated debootstrap package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
administrators by mailing ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org)


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Format: 1.8
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:00:11 +0900
Source: debootstrap
Binary: debootstrap debootstrap-udeb
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.0.102
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.org>
Description:
 debootstrap - Bootstrap a basic Debian system
 debootstrap-udeb - Bootstrap the Debian system (udeb)
Closes: 839046 877855 897379
Changes:
 debootstrap (1.0.102) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
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   * Fix "debootstrap doesn't carry --components across --foreign/--second-stage"
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