happy birthday to my queer regency rom-com!!!! overwhelmed by how many people have read and enjoyed it in the last year tbh (especially after being told the genre was probably too niche when first pitching). Thank you to everyone who’s read it and/or said nice things, it means the world. (x)
Hi! Just happened on your sofa post and discovered your blog ! I just read your regency graphic novel and was astonished by how much I loved it — usually queer posi historical revisionism falls flat for me bc of the lack of research or plausibility and I really appreciate that this one is kind of fix it fic for Anne Lister if she wasn’t evil + that you talk about the changing position of south Asian aristocratic women in this time + that The Ton looks like no fun and everyone was gambling. Great research and nice YA friendship and romance story that I hope a lot of kids read ! Also liked the moment they go over the hill and see the factory (have you read Blood In The Machine or any other books about the luddites?)
THANK YOU!! “fix it fic for Anne Lister if she wasn’t evil” is an incredibly funny but not-inaccurate way to talk about I Shall Never Fall in Love, love to hear from someone who gets it.
I have NOT read Blood in the Machine, I usually only read non-fiction for specific book research - but someone I know made this very good free short comic (subtitle “What the Luddites can teach us about resisting an automated future”) which might be the same topic? I’m always trying to tell people about it, so thank you for giving me an excuse to link to it.
Hello I absolutely love your comics. I've been reading I shall never fall in love repeatedly, I just adore it. Anyway I just wanted to say thank you for your amazing stories. One day I want to make comics like you do
I’m very late replying but it means a lot to hear this, thank you so much for sending - and yes please make your comics, I’m rooting for you
Hi! My school librarian recommended I Shall Never Fall in Love to me a little while back, and I LOVED it. The art is SO beautiful, and I’m impressed with how many arcs you were able to (masterfully) weave together and how real each character felt. And as a transmasc…ish…something (what even is gender), it made me happy that the angst around George’s queerness was mostly internal, and their friends, family, and servants were supportive of them.
It was just a lovely read all around, really. Stumbled upon your blog today and wanted to say thanks for creating it.
THANK YOU!!!! this means so much I don’t know what to say, but let me at least say thanks for taking the time to send this very kind message (and to your librarian also!!)
This is super cool and I’m absolutely going to be checking this out for my classroom bookshelf However, I want to note something about the Ladies of Llagollen because Eleanor and Lady Sarah are very important to me:
That portrait of them is not gender non-conforming fashion, and is not the whole portrait of them. Just the shoulders up, and this is a very common piece of misconception laid down by the late Victorians.
During this point of their stay in Llagollen, a town in Wales where they lived after leaving Ireland, this was the height of French fashion. Shorter hair, similar to a tete de mouton, a plain wool overcoat or jacket, and a typical regency dress underneath.
Here are the original portraits:
These garments are called “redingotes” or, occasionally in the mid-late regency, “pelisse” or “carricks” and they were a standard part of a woman’s wardrobe. I have two I’ve made. You wear them for going out walking , riding, basically any traveling you might do, and they were super duper fashionable.
They also were not ostracized or outcasts. They lived in Llagollen after escaping the expectations of their families in Ireland. Expectations being a marriage to a much older man (Sarah) and being shipped to a convent because she was inconvenient to her family (Eleanor). They straight up became something of a tourist attraction in Wales, garnering all sorts of curiosity, affection, and patronage from the gentry and London’s wealthy. In fact, they got a small stipend from the royal coffers and Shaw wrote a poem about them while they were both still living.
That’s kind of funny because they moved to Wales to be together and live a quiet life reading, walking, and learning. And all these visitors were really annoying to Eleanor, who wrote in her diaries “when will we finally be alone!!”
Feel you, girl.
All this to say, Lady Sarah and Lady Eleanor are very dear to me and I’m so glad someone is including them in an anthology, but they aren’t considered gender non-conforming. Not modern or regency standards.
Likely queer and part of the shift in how English used “romantic friendship”, yes absolutely! But no, not gender queer or gender non-conforming.
If anyone wants to learn more about them, I have resources! And this new book is now going to be one of them!!
(Remember, historians, we don’t ascribe labels to people who did not use them themselves, even after death, no matter how much we want to. That doesn’t respect them and how they spoke of themselves in their lifetimes.)
Hello, I hope you don’t mind me replying in a public reblog. I thought it’d be interesting to expand a little bit on this history for people who haven’t heard of them - and on why I sort of think all of this is simultaneously true, and considering gender variation expansively can be useful for thinking about queer history!
I definitely don’t mean to say the Ladies of Llangollen were specifically punished for what they wore, or that they didn’t also wear skirts! The writing is mostly talking about other cases, just using this picture I already drew for the full history section to break up the text, but I totally see why the placement may look misleading here.
In the book itself, this is in the fashion section after explaining short hair was fashionable on women, and next to a caption that just says they “wore riding habits and hats considered more ‘masculine’.” (We have 17-19thC records of men generally disliking women’s riding clothes because they viewed them as not feminine enough, something that still happens with women’s sports clothes today.) Personally I found a lot of even French fashion plates with women’s riding hats in this style still had some kind of softer shape or element of decoration at this time, and saw the Ladies of Llangollen picture as really looking quite like men’s hats when seen side by side.
(These were the absolute most masculine ones I could find while researching the book, among many other more decorative ones, though I’d be interested if you’ve seen more!)
I’m sure I know much less about them, but my impression was also that their having to escape family expectations in Ireland is a way in which you might say they were to some extent outcasts, insofar as they ended up having to live outwith the society they grew up in (though the wording is a bit strong because it’s really discussing other figures!) Of course, they were very much famous and quite beloved, lots of big names came to visit as a curiosity - but I think we can at least agree they’re still people who did actually have to leave the country to get away from gendered expectations of them.
Mainly I think we might just mean different things by ‘gender non-conforming’, which I don’t mean as ‘equivalent of non-binary or genderqueer’, but in its broad and literal sense! I would say not marrying and going to live with a woman IS inherently not conforming to what’s expected of women at this time, and so was short women’s hair, even though it was a trend.
I don’t know if this is a source you don’t rate, but from whatever image - like Anne Lister - IMO their presentation is both not way beyond the bounds of what’s generally acceptable, but I also don’t think you could say it’s wholly conforming to the ideal of what most of society expected for women then. People are even still weird about straight, cis, traditionally ‘feminine’ women having short hair in the 21st century, and I think 'gender non-conforming’ can be a useful phrase even just to talk about elements that only relate to appearance.
As a bit of a sidebar, we also live in a time now where anti-trans legislation attempts to confine all women to a narrow presentation range, but affects cis women who’d not see themselves as anything but women in terms of their identity at all. So I suppose I see pushing any boundaries of gender presentation as very linked now and historically, and broadening out definitions can often bring new possibilities. Most queer and particularly trans historians I’ve read take quite a broad view of what to consider when thinking about the many ways gender was historically more expansive than some people might think, including trends, and don’t consider one interpretation as precluding any other.
Anyway, basically those mini instagram graphics are shortened from an 8-page illustrated history notes section at the back of a historical fiction book. It’s a story using real history (and my modern experience) to imagine someone who does have an internal sense of gender at odds with what they’re assigned - but it doesn’t actually put a label even on the character, and I hope is pretty clear that we can never know the feelings of real people in the past, who existed with their own societally-specific ideas about gender and sexuality. (Though personally I don’t really have beef with say, a big researcher of Anne Lister calling her 'the modern equivalent of a butch lesbian’ as a way to get people interested.)
My book just has very short introductions that don’t include all the nuance - I’m not a professional historian and wanted them to be accessible to total beginners and young readers. (Though it does include sections about romantic friendships, as well as why we can’t really label historical figures in a modern way!)
Mostly I wanted to point people towards finding out more for themselves, and hope it gives interested readers specific figures to look up and resources to get into!